tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post6955878015594600092..comments2023-10-31T04:56:00.798-05:00Comments on It Must Be the Vapors…: OBAMAYodoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09244765916380830711noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-35183568879738624842008-10-20T03:11:00.000-05:002008-10-20T03:11:00.000-05:00Well, like I said, I don't agree that yoga is free...Well, like I said, I don't agree that yoga is free of religion: it is essentially Hinduism. Likewise, I think Taoism is a perfectly valid religion. Also, I am still a Jew, and still Christian, and anything else that I might choose to study and identify myself with.<BR/><BR/>What religion is God supposed to be, anyhow?<BR/><BR/>We are all God.<BR/><BR/>India is one of the most religious countries in the world, and this is broadly understood there.<BR/><BR/>America in particular has a very debased religious culture, owing to what I would have to consider willful misinterpretations of scripture by apologists for slavery and discrimination. Sadly, this causes many people to turn away from religion itself, to deny the existence of God altogether, because if the Southern Baptist Convention has anything to do with Christianity, what reasonable person would want anything to do with it?<BR/><BR/>Nor does original Christianity much resemble Roman Catholicism.<BR/><BR/>The number of people who actually follow the teachings and path established by Y'shva is small, as contrasted with those who never even knew him while he was living as a man, like Saul of Tarsus, who claimed to be an apostle, but was not, unlike Didymus Thomas, or Mary Magdalene herself.<BR/><BR/>Those who oppressed Christians for centuries, and who themselves were responsible for the murder of God, they are the very ones who claimed the mantle of Christianity for themselves and proclaimed themselves my church. I do not know them.<BR/><BR/>But now that we've got that out of the way, I think fractals are a nice way of understanding how complexity arises. All of this, everything is manifestation of one thing, and we are all that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-62297385100412544042008-10-19T16:06:00.000-05:002008-10-19T16:06:00.000-05:00Okay, I can agree that what you call yoga and what...Okay, I can agree that what you call yoga and what I call, for want of a better word for it, tao are free of religion. <BR/><BR/>Would you agree with me that, if religion is supposed to be necessary and not an artificial mutation of human evolution, at the least, religions give your inclusive definition of religion a bad name. It is for this reason that I can hear Lil'wave speak of her beholding the immensity of the seed within her, the godhead, while lacking the words to describe it any other terms than the Christian litany of creation and original sin.<BR/><BR/>While we're on this: even using the word "connectedness" reinforces the idea of basic separateness. I like the idea of fractal identity, variations in scale of the same thing. Are our cells not just variations on us, we on earth, it on the milky way?Yodoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244765916380830711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-78114556796362137572008-10-19T12:47:00.000-05:002008-10-19T12:47:00.000-05:00I agree that all descriptions of God are necessari...I agree that all descriptions of God are necessarily limited and incomplete, including this discussion. God is beyond all knowledge or representation, which is why for instance in the Jewish tradition no idols are to be made.<BR/><BR/>Certainly, we are kibitzing, but I don't think we are necessarily exclusionary. Some religions (mainly Western) seem to feel it is important to deny the validity of others, but an Eastern (e.g. Hindu or Buddhist) perspective encompasses all views, leading some people to claim that these traditions are not religions.<BR/><BR/>Yoga, of course, does not compel you to believe anything. But mastery of yoga leads to understanding of the unity of the self and God. This, to me, is necessarily religious, but non-exclusionary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-59045835738812416802008-10-19T09:25:00.000-05:002008-10-19T09:25:00.000-05:00Your misunderstanding of what I said is an example...Your misunderstanding of what I said is an example of why I have refrained from discussing what god means to me. Religion only has opinions about god. Because I say religion is exclusionary <B>DOES NOT</B> mean I think god is. God is, religion kibitzes. That is my main point and somehow you insist on missing it.Yodoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244765916380830711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-82528442319431467572008-10-18T16:30:00.000-05:002008-10-18T16:30:00.000-05:00xxxxxrdmxxxxx<BR/>rdmred dirt girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12939283533222061484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-38037703065930917922008-10-18T11:15:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:15:00.000-05:00You can pull my metaphorical leg and I'm not upset...You can pull my metaphorical leg and I'm not upset or offended at all, I just thought it's worth clarifying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-62752969199632393912008-10-18T11:14:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:14:00.000-05:00Defining religion as "that which denies the univer...Defining religion as "that which denies the universal connection to any of its parts" doesn't make sense to me. It's like saying that religion is unbelief, that God is not all-pervading, that God is limited to some things and not other things. In all forms of Advaita, God (as Brahman or as Shiva) is all things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-24787550109147850502008-10-18T11:11:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:11:00.000-05:00lighten up buddy, I was pulling your metaphorical ...lighten up buddy, I was pulling your metaphorical leg ;.pYodoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244765916380830711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-90640708897523995612008-10-18T11:07:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:07:00.000-05:00Practice is simply that which we do, and not prepa...Practice is simply that which we do, and not preparation for anything. There is nothing to achieve because it is already achieved -- union does not need to be found or obtained, it is always present.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-73904173754192542232008-10-18T08:11:00.000-05:002008-10-18T08:11:00.000-05:00Hi Mike, I consider religion to be that which deni...Hi Mike, I consider religion to be that which denies the universal connection to any of its parts. My reality is ganjava yoga as the sun rises all over the world forever. You may practice all you want, I just hope you'll be ready when whatever you're practicing for shows up. Sounds like a test no one is qualified to grade.<BR/><BR/>rdm, i love you …Yodoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244765916380830711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-84409711160261509012008-10-18T04:28:00.000-05:002008-10-18T04:28:00.000-05:00So I've decided to call my current practice Ganjik...So I've decided to call my current practice Ganjika Yoga, it can be considered a type of Kundalini Maha Yoga.<BR/><BR/>Insofar as most people do not identify Yoga as religious, then this might be an interesting approach for common agreement. In truth, Yoga is union with God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-49744681091765210662008-10-18T00:58:00.000-05:002008-10-18T00:58:00.000-05:00i love this ...you express my 'god' thoughts with ...i love this ...<BR/><BR/>you express my 'god' thoughts with more eloquence and sensitivity than I.<BR/><BR/>xxx<BR/>rdmred dirt girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12939283533222061484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29705116.post-48787960155012616212008-10-18T00:42:00.000-05:002008-10-18T00:42:00.000-05:00Buddhism is not a religion, though? I consider it ...Buddhism is not a religion, though? I consider it a form of Advaita Hinduism, all variants of which recognize "the godhead within each being".<BR/><BR/>Personally, I find sat-cit-ananda preferable to anitam-anatta-dukkha, but you may of course choose your own metaphors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com